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Help Screaming?
« on: June 27, 2014, 10:23:02 pm »
I'm trying to death scream.  Problem is I can't get higher than a raspy growl.  I can go plently low but can't go high.  It's also not very consistent.  Any advice?
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Re: Help Screaming?
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2014, 10:32:12 pm »
Everyone's voice has a particular range of notes they can hit. In addition to that you have a particular octave to your voice. Firstly, try experimenting with your natural range of notes, and what ever you are trying to sing, try and bring it down to your own octave, where you can actually hit the note, instead of trying on a an octave that is not natural for you, and not being able to hit it.

I mean, if you have a really deep voice, don't go trying to sing, Bring Me To Life like Amy Lee, sing it at your own octave.

If that doesn't do the trick, or you already do that, try searching up some voice exercises. To reach higher notes, you need to constrict your vocal cords more, and let out a more condensed breath, like you are holding a loud roar back. Simple practice will train your voice, and get you where you want it.

All of that stuff I am talking about is my own knowledge by the way, I was never taught, so some of it might not be quite right, but I hope it helps. :fox-:P:
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Re: Help Screaming?
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2014, 10:37:37 pm »
I think you may be confusing singing with screaming.

Watch the first 3 sec of this ->https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTevbYgk588

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Re: Help Screaming?
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2014, 10:46:20 pm »
I see... I also believe that's the same concept. Either singing or screaming, vocal cords work just in the same way.
If you think there are no notes in screaming, you would be wrong.
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Re: Help Screaming?
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2014, 10:55:37 pm »
Except it's bad to use your actual vocal cords because screaming like that can cause them to be useless.
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Re: Help Screaming?
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2014, 10:56:43 pm »
To reach higher notes, you need to constrict your vocal cords more, and let out a more condensed breath, like you are holding a loud roar back. Simple practice will train your voice, and get you where you want it.

No no no omg constricting your voice is terrible and that is very terrible advice. Even though you may hit the higher notes, constricting your throat will drastically decrease the quality WHICH is very noticable and may hurt your vocal chords in the long run. Stick to using your diaphragm and amplifying your voice by manipulating your mouth shape (not lips) and if you REALLY need to hit the note without transposing the entire song just use falsetto. If done right, falsettos WILL sound better than strained, forced notes.

Except it's bad to use your actual vocal cords because screaming like that can cause them to be useless.

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Re: Help Screaming?
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2014, 10:57:55 pm »
Screaming, guys.  Not singing.  Different things.
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Re: Help Screaming?
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2014, 10:58:07 pm »
Which type are you trying to attempt? Though I don't sing at all. :/ I swear after listening to way enough rock I could see if I could give a hand. So are you trying to attempt growls or screams? Or in between or a mix? You don't have to go full out like Mitch Lucker with his range in singing hehe. From what I've known, it's not that bad having a nice growl, maybe try using your normal voice for cleans? Just like Craig Owens or Matty Mullins? Or it could just be like Beartooth's situtation.
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Re: Help Screaming?
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2014, 10:59:29 pm »
Something like this ->https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTevbYgk588  Maybe higher.  My usual growl just doesn't sound right for the songs I want to make.
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Re: Help Screaming?
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2014, 11:00:02 pm »
Alright, alright! I see what I said wrong!

You need to do that, 'holding back a loud roar' thing I was talking about.
Man, I am really bad at explaining things! XD

Here, this does a much better job of it, and it should clear everything up. I am sure this will help!
http://www.wikihow.com/Death-Metal-Scream
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Re: Help Screaming?
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2014, 11:01:19 pm »
Already seen it.  I can't get the sound higher up without hurting myself, and that's what I'm trying to avoid because I sing as well.
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Re: Help Screaming?
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2014, 11:02:49 pm »
Aw... Practice makes perfect...?

...No...?
Yeah, I got nothing else.
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Re: Help Screaming?
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2014, 11:04:47 pm »
No biggie.  Just wanted to see if someone on here could help.  Been practicin for a while with no improvement other than less irritation.
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Re: Help Screaming?
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2014, 11:07:37 pm »
Actually... that's significant improvement!

Your voice being less irritated shows that you are training it, and soon you will be able to hit your current highest without any irritation, and you will be able to hit higher notes then!
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Re: Help Screaming?
« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2014, 11:08:27 pm »
Maybe... I still can't move the sound.
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Re: Help Screaming?
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2014, 11:11:03 pm »
Keep practicing and you will get there. When improving something, you have to perfect whats wrong in the area of your current limit, and only then, can you go on, past that limit.
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Re: Help Screaming?
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2014, 11:15:32 pm »
Well, thanks for the advice.  I'll get back to you on how I'm doing.
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Re: Help Screaming?
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2014, 11:16:37 pm »
You should be proud of what kind of screaming voice you currently have, it is what makes it unique from the others. Like most metalcore band singers. I can see that you really want to be just like your role model, Trivium but, take advantage of your normal voice to use in sync with your growls. Killswitch Engage for example. Don't push yourself to much to a point where it'll hurt. Pratice, sure but don't push yourself too much or you might not be able to.

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Re: Help Screaming?
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2014, 11:21:04 pm »
Thanks!  Maybe when I get the band together, I'll send you our demo.  Free of charge!
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Re: Help Screaming?
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2014, 04:57:00 pm »
Thanks!  Maybe when I get the band together, I'll send you our demo.  Free of charge!

Here is a tip I use to hit higher notes c:

Make a falsetto hum like noise, then slowly force out a scream with your diaphragm. I'm no good at explaining it but maybe you could skype chat some day and I could try and show you cx

Also I wouldn't mind hearing your demo! ^_^
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