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More genders suggestions
« on: August 11, 2015, 09:14:23 pm »
I was thinking maybe the site could use more genders. And for the symbols they could be pride colored circles. Like how on the forums you see the male and female symbols maybe we can have stuff like this
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These are the only 2 I made, I know there's a lot of other amazing gender identities out there but I only made 2 because I didn't know if the site would like this idea

What do you guys think about it?
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Re: More genders suggestions
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2015, 09:24:18 pm »
Sounds like a pretty good idea to me that would help people of non-binary genders feel more welcome to the website :fox-:):
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Re: More genders suggestions
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2015, 09:26:34 pm »
I really like these both and love this idea! I'm not sure if we could actually make it so the gender field would read them and show the circles, but it's definitely something I will look into!
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Re: More genders suggestions
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2015, 09:28:17 pm »
Thanks guys, we could always get someone to make pixel ones if that would help
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Re: More genders suggestions
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2015, 10:05:17 pm »
Its actually been brought up before with approval; its just that the forum software we have doesn't allow this :sad-fox: It's something we have no control over, and I'm not sure if there's even a patch that can be made to fix it.

But its part of the reason we introduced the pronoun field--and, once the policies on that are all ironed out, we're going to be getting rid of the gender field altogether.

Though, if people wanted, we could add a custom field for it, displayed on your profile only, similar to the fursona description field? That might be a bit redundant, idk

ETA: On that topic, I've been thinking about the idea of pride signature buttons for a while. Like the awards, but smaller, like flags or something. I just don't know how feasible that is yet ^^;
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Re: More genders suggestions
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2015, 10:34:05 pm »
I like the custom field idea and the pride signature button. These are really great ideas
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Re: More genders suggestions
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2015, 10:47:13 pm »
Maybe even just a simple thing like the pronouns add in?
It could work for the time being.

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Re: More genders suggestions
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2015, 10:53:46 pm »
Side note: If it's on the same row as the pronouns and the awards, I'd say that the badges would look very nice, though if the gender badges need to be on their own row then we would probably need to rethink the size we allow for the signatures.
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Re: More genders suggestions
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2015, 11:02:31 pm »
Side note: If it's on the same row as the pronouns and the awards, I'd say that the badges would look very nice, though if the gender badges need to be on their own row then we would probably need to rethink the size we allow for the signatures.

I was thinking underneath the pronouns, a small image shouldn't be too bad. I just don't know if that'd make it too image-heavy or cluttered or what (I also don't know how to let users select multiple options)
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Re: More genders suggestions
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2015, 11:59:05 pm »
I really like this idea! I think it'd be a fun addition to our signatures. I think having them somewhere in the pronoun field would be nice. I like the idea of having them underneath the pronouns or maybe at the end of the field where the awards currently are and then putting the awards in another field above or below the pronoun field, that may make signature too long though so the first idea might be best. I also don't mind helping make the pride flags/circles/hearts/whatEverShapeWeDecide
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Re: More genders suggestions
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2015, 03:44:15 am »
This is a nice idea! It's a shame that SMF doesn't let you edit the gender options or make icon-based custom profile fields, but putting them where the awards currently are might be the best alternative for keeping tidy. On several forums that I've been to (including one I ran for a while), award badges were small images, usually around 25x25, located in the icon area (instead of bulkier stamps by the signature). I know the current badge images are part of the history of FT, but it also makes sense to have gender graphics in proximity to the pronouns field. If your admin interface looks like a typical SMF forum, there should be a Badge Awards section under Configuration, so the awards could probably be condensed and moved without too much of a hassle (I also think we could use more of these, but that's a different story). This would simultaneously clear up the signature area and make room for a gender addition. Just an idea, but maybe you'll consider it  :fox-:):
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Re: More genders suggestions
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2015, 08:12:45 am »
With things like this, we have to consider the intent of the field's existence.  In this case, the point of having a Gender field at all is to quickly communicate pronoun preference, which is how we used it for a long time.  But it no longer suited that purpose, which is why we're deprecating it, and replacing it with an actual, explicitly-stated pronouns field.  As for the gender icons or pride flags, we can certainly look into it, but icons need to communicate things clearly and accurately (especially at tiny sizes), and it's very difficult to do that for gender symbols or pride flags outside the binary/mainstream.  There's also the question of what the purpose would be; there are reasons we don't already have an "Orientation" field.

Still, it's definitely on the "maybe"/"we'll try it" list, and the suggestion is appreciated :)
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Re: More genders suggestions
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2015, 10:50:35 am »
Regarding badges, Ive actually redone them to be sleeker, so I think theoretically more images down there would be fine. And we plan on making more awards once I get the current ones sorted out, I promise :fox-:P:

As far as the purpose of the images...why not? A little more pride is always a good thing,  and lots of members have pride flags in their signatures already
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