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Un-editable Posts?
« on: January 22, 2011, 06:22:39 pm »
I know that we have a time limit set on how long before you can't edit a post anymore to prevent post deletion, but I had made a topic less than a week before I went to edit it, and it's un-editable. I can see a month old post, but only a week? I was planning on editing the first post with each update I have as to avoid any clutter and things being lost among posts, but now I guess I can't. Is there any chance that we can extend the amount of time we have to edit it? The current time frame is kind of ridiculous, if you ask me.
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Re: Un-editable Posts?
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2011, 07:27:51 pm »
The current edit time is set for five days, which is what it's been since we first set it.  As far as I'm aware, it hasn't really caused any problems, and there are few (if any) practical reasons to allow post editing beyond that.  So, what time limit do you suggest?
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Re: Un-editable Posts?
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2011, 07:33:20 pm »
The current edit time is set for five days, which is what it's been since we first set it.  As far as I'm aware, it hasn't really caused any problems, and there are few (if any) practical reasons to allow post editing beyond that.  So, what time limit do you suggest?
Like I said before, I'm keeping a thread where I just update the first post similar to the species list; that way people don't have to wade through all the unrelated posts to get information. If there's a possibility of me getting an exception for that single thread, that would be best. Otherwise, I alway thought 2 weeks-a month would be a good limit.
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Re: Un-editable Posts?
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2011, 07:35:01 pm »
What thread are you referring to?  We definitely won't be extending it more than 7 days due to past abuses of it, and unfortunately, only mods/admins can be exempt without major code modifications.
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Re: Un-editable Posts?
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2011, 07:44:30 pm »
if i can sound stupid really quick, thanks,

what are the reasons/is the reason that there's a limit in the first place?
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Re: Un-editable Posts?
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2011, 08:08:44 pm »
1.  People editing their old posts to change the flow of a conversation or delete the contents of important posts.
2.  People choosing to leave the site and emptying the contents of all of their old posts.  The incident that prompted the policy was someone who did this to over 500 posts, including some very active threads that were considered part of FT history.
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Re: Un-editable Posts?
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2011, 08:14:54 pm »
thanks for clearing that up. ^^'
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Re: Un-editable Posts?
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2011, 08:27:23 pm »
I sort of agree with Alexx on this.

I think that if you make the thread you should be able to edit the first post, just because you might want to update information easily for everyone else to view.

I suppose to prevent future problems you can put "check latest posts for updates" in your first post?

I think that would solve this problem, since the time limit has been abused. C:
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Re: Un-editable Posts?
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2011, 08:31:12 pm »
oh! iz has an idea!

if the mods cant (or dont want to) change it, you could link to somewhere in the first post, and then edit that.
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Re: Un-editable Posts?
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2011, 09:26:39 pm »
I think that if you make the thread you should be able to edit the first post, just because you might want to update information easily for everyone else to view.

If that were possible, we'd do it, but unfortunately, the edit times can't be fine-tuned that much without major code edits, and I don't have the time to do it.
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Re: Un-editable Posts?
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2011, 11:35:55 pm »
The current edit time is set for five days, which is what it's been since we first set it.  As far as I'm aware, it hasn't really caused any problems, and there are few (if any) practical reasons to allow post editing beyond that.  So, what time limit do you suggest?

Hm, and here I thought it was only 3 days.
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2.  People choosing to leave the site and emptying the contents of all of their old posts.

Actually, from this and other sites, I have always wondered, is there any way to repair mass-deletes?
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Re: Un-editable Posts?
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2011, 03:07:32 am »
Only if we catch it within 3 days, because that's the lifespan of our database backups.  Deleting posts doesn't really delete them, it just sends them to the "recycle bin", so we can restore them indefinitely, but editing a post to blank its contents leaves no record of the post's previous contents.  So, the only way to restore them is to manually restore them from database backups.
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Re: Un-editable Posts?
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2011, 03:28:32 am »
Only if we catch it within 3 days, because that's the lifespan of our database backups.  Deleting posts doesn't really delete them, it just sends them to the "recycle bin", so we can restore them indefinitely, but editing a post to blank its contents leaves no record of the post's previous contents.  So, the only way to restore them is to manually restore them from database backups.

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